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Reply #150 posted 08/26/19 5:31pm

jjhunsecker

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Musicslave said:



2elijah said:


Musicslave said:


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Thanks. I read it. Not surprised. Just like to read stuff for myself.


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I hate self-righteous attitudes. Referring to the deceased, Eric Garner as a dirtbag because of his rap sheet, "resisting arrest" and selling loose cigarettes reinforces the idea that he deserved to die that day or it's his own fault that he's not alive today. "He brought IT (meaning: Death) onto himself. He should've complied.


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I'm not condoning those who break the law or doesn't comply with officer's commands (eventhough their commands tend to be more hostile and/or extreme for POC) BUT paying for non-compliance with their lives is completely unreasonable and an injustice to say the least.


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Oh yeah, and another thing: To call a dead man a dirtbag because he was selling single cigarettes, speaks to the character or the lack thereof of that person. It's as if the man didn't pay enough of a price already by losing his life. I guess for some people, even death isn't enough of a penalty. disbelief


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@ bolded part. Those that feel that way, harbor hatred towards Garner because of who he was. The ugly truth is, to some folks, Garner deserved what happened to him, because they already criminalized him, whether he had a criminal history or not. It’s like the same mentality of many racists in the past, who at first look, labeled enslaved or free Blacks as criminals/savages/suspicious, as many still do today. I believe over the years, this is why so many racist cops, got away with murder of unarmed Black males, because many in America’s jury pool, have that same mentality of innocent Black males. So goes the unfortunate saying of ‘When They See Us’. [Edited 8/26/19 10:48am]

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Right. But if it was Chad, those same people will be talking about due process and all sort of rights Chad had as a citizen of these United States. lol


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"That's The Way Of The World." as EW&F said.



You know that...
There are different standards for different folks
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Reply #151 posted 08/26/19 5:43pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Musicslave said:

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Right. But if it was Chad, those same people will be talking about due process and all sort of rights Chad had as a citizen of these United States. lol

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"That's The Way Of The World." as EW&F said.

You know that... There are different standards for different folks

yup some use ethnic slurs but then deny them and when it's proven the have they make excuses and then falsely accuse others of doing so and think the won!

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Reply #152 posted 08/26/19 5:51pm

poppys

You are really going to keep going with this on the thread you called Eric Garner a dirt bag on? Give it a rest. Disgusting.



cborgman said:


OnlyNDaUsa said:

intent to cause injury. AND without some other justification.



Chokeholds are designed to cause injury. Either the stopping of breath to the lungs, or blood to the heart and brain

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I do not agree I think they are designed to compel compliance. do you not agree that this dirt bag resisted arrest?


cborgman said:

“Dirt bag”?

You’re now openly calling eric garner a dirt bag?

And you wonder why we question your defense of his killer...

"if you can't clap on the one, then don't clap at all"
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Reply #153 posted 08/26/19 5:58pm

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poppys said:

You are really going to keep going with this on the thread you called Eric Garner a dirt bag on? Give it a rest. Disgusting.


have you ever called anyone a name? like trump maybe?


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[Edited 8/26/19 18:01pm]

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Reply #154 posted 08/26/19 6:09pm

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Reply #155 posted 08/26/19 6:44pm

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jjhunsecker said:

Musicslave said:



2elijah said:


Musicslave said:


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Thanks. I read it. Not surprised. Just like to read stuff for myself.


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I hate self-righteous attitudes. Referring to the deceased, Eric Garner as a dirtbag because of his rap sheet, "resisting arrest" and selling loose cigarettes reinforces the idea that he deserved to die that day or it's his own fault that he's not alive today. "He brought IT (meaning: Death) onto himself. He should've complied.


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I'm not condoning those who break the law or doesn't comply with officer's commands (eventhough their commands tend to be more hostile and/or extreme for POC) BUT paying for non-compliance with their lives is completely unreasonable and an injustice to say the least.


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Oh yeah, and another thing: To call a dead man a dirtbag because he was selling single cigarettes, speaks to the character or the lack thereof of that person. It's as if the man didn't pay enough of a price already by losing his life. I guess for some people, even death isn't enough of a penalty. disbelief


[Edited 8/26/19 10:26am]



@ bolded part. Those that feel that way, harbor hatred towards Garner because of who he was. The ugly truth is, to some folks, Garner deserved what happened to him, because they already criminalized him, whether he had a criminal history or not. It’s like the same mentality of many racists in the past, who at first look, labeled enslaved or free Blacks as criminals/savages/suspicious, as many still do today. I believe over the years, this is why so many racist cops, got away with murder of unarmed Black males, because many in America’s jury pool, have that same mentality of innocent Black males. So goes the unfortunate saying of ‘When They See Us’. [Edited 8/26/19 10:48am]

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Right. But if it was Chad, those same people will be talking about due process and all sort of rights Chad had as a citizen of these United States. lol


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"That's The Way Of The World." as EW&F said.



You know that...
There are different standards for different folks

Yep. nod But if you reveal that ugly truth, some will lose their mind.
[Edited 8/26/19 18:54pm]
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Reply #156 posted 08/26/19 7:13pm

jjhunsecker

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



You know that...
There are different standards for different folks

Yep. nod But if you reveal that ugly truth, some will lose their mind.
[Edited 8/26/19 18:54pm]


So so true....
You see it on here
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Reply #157 posted 08/26/19 7:15pm

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poppys said:

You are really going to keep going with this on the thread you called Eric Garner a dirt bag on? Give it a rest. Disgusting.






cborgman said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


intent to cause injury. AND without some other justification.





Chokeholds are designed to cause injury. Either the stopping of breath to the lungs, or blood to the heart and brain



OnlyNDaUsa said:

I do not agree I think they are designed to compel compliance. do you not agree that this dirt bag resisted arrest?




cborgman said:

“Dirt bag”?

You’re now openly calling eric garner a dirt bag?

And you wonder why we question your defense of his killer...



He can't give it a rest... He's obviously obsessed
We shouldn't feed into it.
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Reply #158 posted 08/27/19 1:09am

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Musicslave said:



jjhunsecker said:




Musicslave said:



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Where is he referred to as a dirtbag? Didn't see that. Just want to read it for myself. Which page in the thread?




I believe he edited it out


but see Cborgman's pst #70 which contains the original quote and Cborgman's response


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Thanks. I read it. Not surprised. Just like to read stuff for myself.


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I hate self-righteous attitudes. Referring to the deceased, Eric Garner as a dirtbag because of his rap sheet, "resisting arrest" and selling loose cigarettes reinforces the idea that he deserved to die that day or it's his own fault that he's not alive today. "He brought IT (meaning: Death) onto himself. He should've complied.


-


I'm not condoning those who break the law or doesn't comply with officer's commands (eventhough their commands tend to be more hostile and/or extreme for POC) BUT paying for non-compliance with their lives is completely unreasonable and an injustice to say the least.


-


Oh yeah, and another thing: To call a dead man a dirtbag because he was selling single cigarettes, speaks to the character or the lack thereof of that person. It's as if the man didn't pay enough of a price already by losing his life. I guess for some people, even death isn't enough of a penalty. disbelief

[Edited 8/26/19 10:26am]


Exactly correct
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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