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Thread started 12/31/19 10:15am

djThunderfunk

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log in issue

I'm the only one that uses my laptop, so I stay logged in to the org. Today, even though I have it set to keep me logged in, every time I close my browser I'm logged out of the org and have to use my password again next time.

What fresh hell glitch is this? lol

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Reply #1 posted 12/31/19 10:22am

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I had to log into my account twice today as well

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Reply #2 posted 12/31/19 10:23am

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Well glad I am not the only one. Four times today! This never happens.

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Reply #3 posted 12/31/19 10:25am

mELdOURADOsELV
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Grr mad it's driving me crazy.

I'm on my phone so whenever I off my phone
I have to log back in again!! pissed
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Reply #4 posted 12/31/19 11:48am

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I just got logged out when I hit refresh. Not cool. neutral

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Reply #5 posted 12/31/19 11:48am

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This totally ruined my year's end pout

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Reply #6 posted 12/31/19 11:49am

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hah! whiners

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Reply #7 posted 12/31/19 2:02pm

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Same here.

Off to a NYE wedding.

Happy New Year Everyone!


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Reply #8 posted 12/31/19 2:33pm

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When you have not been posting or active it times you out. Hence the having to log back in. biggrin

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Reply #9 posted 12/31/19 3:42pm

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luv4u said:

When you have not been posting or active it times you out. Hence the having to log back in. biggrin


On purpose? Because this is new. And it must be pretty fast. I walked away to answer a phone call, came back 10 minutes later and I was logged out.

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Reply #10 posted 12/31/19 4:27pm

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djThunderfunk said:

luv4u said:

When you have not been posting or active it times you out. Hence the having to log back in. biggrin


On purpose? Because this is new. And it must be pretty fast. I walked away to answer a phone call, came back 10 minutes later and I was logged out.


It logs me out when I have not been active so I have to log back in. The org has always timed me out for years. Or it is simply an org bug issue.

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Reply #11 posted 12/31/19 5:04pm

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PANDURITO said:

This totally ruined my year's end pout


well, at least we don't pay a $ 77,- membership fee lol boxed


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Reply #12 posted 12/31/19 6:25pm

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luv4u said:

When you have not been posting or active it times you out. Hence the having to log back in. biggrin


I haven't been logged out ever since I started posting.
I checked the box that says 'remember me'and that keeps the account logged in.
I was surprised that I had to log in today, multiple times.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/19 7:03pm

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Yep, there's a bug. I have to log in after each time I close a Prince.org tab.

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Reply #14 posted 12/31/19 7:13pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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I just figured it out, it's all luv4u's fault. She had that bug for a long time nod
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/19 7:24pm

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mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

I just figured it out, it's all luv4u's fault. She had that bug for a long time nod



You just had to let the cat out of the bag didn't you? spank evillol whistling

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Reply #16 posted 12/31/19 7:28pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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omfg elderly abuse!! no no no! she bad news I tell ya!


razz


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[Edited 12/31/19 19:29pm]
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/19 7:38pm

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mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

omfg elderly abuse!! no no no! she bad news I tell ya! razz . [Edited 12/31/19 19:29pm]



what??!!! you 80 years old ? Now keep this thread on track, thanks.


Image result for old granny


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Reply #18 posted 12/31/19 7:54pm

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luv4u said:



mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:


omfg elderly abuse!! no no no! she bad news I tell ya! razz . [Edited 12/31/19 19:29pm]



what??!!! you 80 years old ? Now keep this thread on track, thanks.


Image result for old granny



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Ok ok

But it never happened before today!
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Reply #19 posted 12/31/19 8:29pm

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Happening to me too. sad

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Ask him why he felt the need to delete his account, rather than just walk away and stop posting as countless others have done. Or he could have just stayed out of P&R.
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Reply #20 posted 12/31/19 8:36pm

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PennyPurple said:

Happening to me too. sad



sad

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Reply #21 posted 01/01/20 4:14pm

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Just sayin', it's still happening.

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Reply #22 posted 01/01/20 4:52pm

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Its def a NEW issue and not some long term ordinary thing luv stated. Yall/Ben causing mini heart attacks having [N word snip - luv4u] thinking theyre banned lol

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Reply #23 posted 01/01/20 5:04pm

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Yeah, this is new. I've stayed logged in for months at a time... years probably.

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Reply #24 posted 01/01/20 6:23pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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From early 2019 ben did some upgrading etc and he said there were some changes after he upgraded.
I wonder if that had to work anything or if it's even related?


ben said:
something subtly changed in between PHP 7.0 and PHP 7.2 and it took a while to figure out.


ben said:
04/28/19 7:34am
nothing should have changed with how linking worked, but I upgraded PHP in that time and a lot of subtle differences seem to have cropped up. I'll look into seeing if I can fix this.
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Reply #25 posted 01/01/20 11:54pm

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This started late 2019, so I'm thinking it must be related to the cookies this site uses. I can't see anything wrong at first sight, so perhaps it has to do with how the back end processes them.

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Reply #26 posted 01/02/20 1:02am

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Same here, tested with Firefox on Fedora Linux and Firefox on Win 10.

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Reply #27 posted 01/02/20 12:24pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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Interesting, thanks for the schooling. I'm not tech savvy at all and don't know how that works.

So do you think it's a simple fix for ben if it's cookies?
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Reply #28 posted 01/02/20 4:23pm

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mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

Interesting, thanks for the schooling. I'm not tech savvy at all and don't know how that works. So do you think it's a simple fix for ben if it's cookies?

.

The main problem is that AFAIK the Org runs on a custom version of 20 year old forum software. Usually a bug like the one we're experiencing now would have been caught and fixed in an update aeons ago, but now Ben has to look for it himself. Might even be a quirk related to how the software interacts with a specific version of PHP. It might be easy to solve, but quite frankly date/time issues are among the most annoying issues to pinpoint and fix when it comes to software.

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The most ideal solution would be an update to a current forum software package, buuuuut... that would cost a truckload of time and money. Consider that you'd need to convert the existing database to the one used by the new software: twenty years of posts is a lot of data. Consider that this might require new server hardware. Consider that someone will need to pay for it. Consider that the Org likely has various features that might not be available in that new forum software -- e.g. the way the URLs are formed: now you need to have a solution in place so all old URLs continue to work. Etc etc etc.

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The advantage would be that the Org would finally move with the times, might have nice features like e.g. being able to "like" a post, easy permalinks to posts, mobile friendly lay-out, a proper WYSIWYG editor,... But like I said: this would be a costly and time-consuming affair. A blog I visit regularly has recently upgraded to a current version of Wordpress after being stuck on an older one for years, and it took them months and several dedictaed people to get there, even though their previous version was only half a decade old or so. But then you have a lot of custom functionality that also needs to be ported, various features, millions of comments that needed to be moved to a new database,... And after launch (BTW the site was offline for about a day just for the move) they're still spending a lot of times fixing bugs that only turned up now their full audience is using the site. They've even encountered an issue that can only be fixed by Wordpress itself (due to the millions of comments in the database causing one query to max out the server resources!).

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TBH I don't see that happening here. I doubt you'll get enough people willing to pay up $5 or $10 or $20 one time for such an endeavour, when it is absolutely unclear how much work (and thus money) would need to be involved.

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Reply #29 posted 01/02/20 4:42pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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BartVanHemelen said:



mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:


Interesting, thanks for the schooling. I'm not tech savvy at all and don't know how that works. So do you think it's a simple fix for ben if it's cookies?

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The main problem is that AFAIK the Org runs on a custom version of 20 year old forum software. Usually a bug like the one we're experiencing now would have been caught and fixed in an update aeons ago, but now Ben has to look for it himself. Might even be a quirk related to how the software interacts with a specific version of PHP. It might be easy to solve, but quite frankly date/time issues are among the most annoying issues to pinpoint and fix when it comes to software.


.


The most ideal solution would be an update to a current forum software package, buuuuut... that would cost a truckload of time and money. Consider that you'd need to convert the existing database to the one used by the new software: twenty years of posts is a lot of data. Consider that this might require new server hardware. Consider that someone will need to pay for it. Consider that the Org likely has various features that might not be available in that new forum software -- e.g. the way the URLs are formed: now you need to have a solution in place so all old URLs continue to work. Etc etc etc.


.


The advantage would be that the Org would finally move with the times, might have nice features like e.g. being able to "like" a post, easy permalinks to posts, mobile friendly lay-out, a proper WYSIWYG editor,... But like I said: this would be a costly and time-consuming affair. A blog I visit regularly has recently upgraded to a current version of Wordpress after being stuck on an older one for years, and it took them months and several dedictaed people to get there, even though their previous version was only half a decade old or so. But then you have a lot of custom functionality that also needs to be ported, various features, millions of comments that needed to be moved to a new database,... And after launch (BTW the site was offline for about a day just for the move) they're still spending a lot of times fixing bugs that only turned up now their full audience is using the site. They've even encountered an issue that can only be fixed by Wordpress itself (due to the millions of comments in the database causing one query to max out the server resources!).


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TBH I don't see that happening here. I doubt you'll get enough people willing to pay up $5 or $10 or $20 one time for such an endeavour, when it is absolutely unclear how much work (and thus money) would need to be involved.


Wow! Lots of work for a simple site.

I actually like it the way it is, being logged out is just a small inconvenience compared to the inconvenience it would cause ben to move it over.

And it's not like he's making any profit,
as he stated before, he's keeping the site around for the org community, for us. And he doesn't have to keep paying to keep this site up and running.

So, I'm good here! 👍
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